Tinkering with the recipe for gingerbread cake until it’s right, adjusting to the variability of local grains, and cherishing the quiet mornings when the sun fills the bakery windows with Sophie Williams, a baker in Bellingham, Washington. What happens when you bake all your sourdough starter by accident? And what’s a “starch attack”?
About What It’s Like to Be…
In each episode of What It’s Like to Be…, bestselling author Dan Heath speaks with someone about what it’s like to walk in their (work) shoes. Behavioral Scientist serves as a distribution partner with episodes released every other week. Learn more about the podcast’s mission of “slow curiosity” here, and head here to get Dan’s reflections on how the mission is going after a year of conversations.
The “Baker” episode of What It’s Like To Be… featured Sophie Williams. It was produced and edited by Matt Purdy. Copyright © 2026 by Dan Heath. All rights reserved.
