Singing cleanup songs, tiring out kids before naptime, and battling the “babysitter” stereotype with Brenda Hawkins, a daycare owner in Maryland. How has childcare changed over the years? And what is a “dope and drop”?
About What It’s Like to Be…
In each episode of What It’s Like to Be…, bestselling author Dan Heath speaks with someone about what it’s like to walk in their (work) shoes. Behavioral Scientist serves as a distribution partner with episodes released every other week. Learn more about the podcast’s mission of “slow curiosity” here, and head here to get Dan’s reflections on how the mission is going after a year of conversations.
The “Daycare Owner” episode of What It’s Like To Be… featured Brenda Hawkins. It was produced and edited by Matt Purdy. Copyright © 2025 by Dan Heath. All rights reserved.
